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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fascinating topic and article indeed Cyndi. Thank you first and foremost so much for writing it.

You evoke and bring to light a situation that for many people is a way of life. Whether is a way that serves them or not, is a whole other story.

For me personally, while I definitely treat others the way I would like to be treated, I don&#039;t do it because I hope they treat me back the same way. I do it because if we are all ONE, then technically I am treating myself how I want to be treated.

I know for some people being in a &quot;tough&quot; life situation equals staying and dealing with it, while for others, as for your dog it equals removing oneself from the situation.

For us as human beings, I think it boils down to a mixture of things, depending on the situation. Today knowing what I know about me, myself, life, the afterlife, chakras, energy, etc, etc... I have to say that I am not longer comfortable staying in any situations that &quot;remove from my being&quot;, rather than add to it. I am not saying that I would bail at the first sign of problems, but I have come to a place where I think I know enough for me when it is right to stay, and for how long to put one&#039;s energy into dealing with something, versus when we should let the other person be, but remove ourselves from the situation. I guess it kind of is like you mention - &quot;using our common sense&quot;. I have learned that allowing any kind of abuse to continue on, is actually a form of abuse in itself. If we know better, we should act as the person who helps the situation...helps both parties grow and evolve.

I know that religions have played a huge part in distorting the Golden Rule, and while some people feel this is how it is meant to be, I can&#039;t say I agree for too many reasons to mention here. 

So thank you once again, for raising a very important topic, that I don&#039;t think many people consider in the light that you have shared with us here today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fascinating topic and article indeed Cyndi. Thank you first and foremost so much for writing it.</p>
<p>You evoke and bring to light a situation that for many people is a way of life. Whether is a way that serves them or not, is a whole other story.</p>
<p>For me personally, while I definitely treat others the way I would like to be treated, I don&#8217;t do it because I hope they treat me back the same way. I do it because if we are all ONE, then technically I am treating myself how I want to be treated.</p>
<p>I know for some people being in a &#8220;tough&#8221; life situation equals staying and dealing with it, while for others, as for your dog it equals removing oneself from the situation.</p>
<p>For us as human beings, I think it boils down to a mixture of things, depending on the situation. Today knowing what I know about me, myself, life, the afterlife, chakras, energy, etc, etc&#8230; I have to say that I am not longer comfortable staying in any situations that &#8220;remove from my being&#8221;, rather than add to it. I am not saying that I would bail at the first sign of problems, but I have come to a place where I think I know enough for me when it is right to stay, and for how long to put one&#8217;s energy into dealing with something, versus when we should let the other person be, but remove ourselves from the situation. I guess it kind of is like you mention &#8211; &#8220;using our common sense&#8221;. I have learned that allowing any kind of abuse to continue on, is actually a form of abuse in itself. If we know better, we should act as the person who helps the situation&#8230;helps both parties grow and evolve.</p>
<p>I know that religions have played a huge part in distorting the Golden Rule, and while some people feel this is how it is meant to be, I can&#8217;t say I agree for too many reasons to mention here. </p>
<p>So thank you once again, for raising a very important topic, that I don&#8217;t think many people consider in the light that you have shared with us here today.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyndi Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyndi Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HMMM, I&#039;m learning ever so much more than I knew when I wrote this article! One line in particular really caught my thoughts, a sentence from Bernie:

&quot;The only way out of the dream is to begin your own dream.&quot;

I work toward this every day and have recently been thinking that dreaming should be a little more fun than I&#039;ve let it be. It certainly is for my youngest son, who starts each day in a fresh way, almost like a new person ready for a fantastic adventure.  He sees joy in the smallest and sometimes oddest of situations.

Only yesterday we were watching the cooking channel (his idea, not mine) and pretty soon, he&#039;s convinced me to send away for the bake-a-huge cupcake tin, because &quot;Nothing like that has ever been seen before!&quot; Today he asked if he can write me a song for Christmas just so I have something original to remember him by.  (Like he&#039;s actually going to move away some day? He&#039;s already planning how he&#039;ll take over the downstairs when he&#039;s in college.)  

When a teenager, my oldest son modeled dream-making through reactivity.  Cool was anything that wasn&#039;t aligned with his mother; anything that wasn&#039;t about mom, was cool.  I remember the day he came home with a pierced ear. I told him it was marvelous, and I meant it. The earring disappeared within a few days, lost in space. Time marched forward--we both survived the &quot;years of the grunting,&quot; as I called them, during which time I catalogued about 63 different types of grunts and their meanings (I had to; it was his sole form of communication) and eventually, he discovered he could create a new life from the inside-to-the out, not only the outside-to-the-in.  Ironically, by the time he&#039;s done with college, we&#039;ll have &quot;shared&quot; the same major, minor, and many of the same interests.  He even uses a meditation tape, although he insists that he skips over the section that mentions the word &quot;chakra,&quot; since I write books about &quot;that kind of nonsense.&quot; 

I think --maybe--the Golden Rule is really more about being who we really are, regardless of the stuff the stuffing comes from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HMMM, I&#8217;m learning ever so much more than I knew when I wrote this article! One line in particular really caught my thoughts, a sentence from Bernie:</p>
<p>&#8220;The only way out of the dream is to begin your own dream.&#8221;</p>
<p>I work toward this every day and have recently been thinking that dreaming should be a little more fun than I&#8217;ve let it be. It certainly is for my youngest son, who starts each day in a fresh way, almost like a new person ready for a fantastic adventure.  He sees joy in the smallest and sometimes oddest of situations.</p>
<p>Only yesterday we were watching the cooking channel (his idea, not mine) and pretty soon, he&#8217;s convinced me to send away for the bake-a-huge cupcake tin, because &#8220;Nothing like that has ever been seen before!&#8221; Today he asked if he can write me a song for Christmas just so I have something original to remember him by.  (Like he&#8217;s actually going to move away some day? He&#8217;s already planning how he&#8217;ll take over the downstairs when he&#8217;s in college.)  </p>
<p>When a teenager, my oldest son modeled dream-making through reactivity.  Cool was anything that wasn&#8217;t aligned with his mother; anything that wasn&#8217;t about mom, was cool.  I remember the day he came home with a pierced ear. I told him it was marvelous, and I meant it. The earring disappeared within a few days, lost in space. Time marched forward&#8211;we both survived the &#8220;years of the grunting,&#8221; as I called them, during which time I catalogued about 63 different types of grunts and their meanings (I had to; it was his sole form of communication) and eventually, he discovered he could create a new life from the inside-to-the out, not only the outside-to-the-in.  Ironically, by the time he&#8217;s done with college, we&#8217;ll have &#8220;shared&#8221; the same major, minor, and many of the same interests.  He even uses a meditation tape, although he insists that he skips over the section that mentions the word &#8220;chakra,&#8221; since I write books about &#8220;that kind of nonsense.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think &#8211;maybe&#8211;the Golden Rule is really more about being who we really are, regardless of the stuff the stuffing comes from.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this piece -- I think it points to the fact that living according to the Golden Rule naturally grows out of a state of inner peace.  But if we don&#039;t have that peace, adopting the Golden Rule as a strategy isn&#039;t going to get it for us -- and that&#039;s where I think we tend to go astray.  We say &quot;if I&#039;m good enough, everything will be okay and I won&#039;t have to feel so afraid.&quot;  But peace isn&#039;t something to be earned (and I have to remember this often myself) -- we can have it no matter who we&#039;ve been or what we&#039;ve done in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this piece &#8212; I think it points to the fact that living according to the Golden Rule naturally grows out of a state of inner peace.  But if we don&#8217;t have that peace, adopting the Golden Rule as a strategy isn&#8217;t going to get it for us &#8212; and that&#8217;s where I think we tend to go astray.  We say &#8220;if I&#8217;m good enough, everything will be okay and I won&#8217;t have to feel so afraid.&#8221;  But peace isn&#8217;t something to be earned (and I have to remember this often myself) &#8212; we can have it no matter who we&#8217;ve been or what we&#8217;ve done in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaushik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people practice gratitude and it&#039;s an important practice but I also see that it is a corrupted around the Law of Attraction as a reward practice. We could say the same about compassion.

In my experience, gratitude and compassion and forgiveness and many of these practices are not something we do but something we stop doing. When we stop holding on and are able to let go, we see that gratitude is as experience is the love of life, and compassion is the ability to see all points of view when we are no longer attached to our specific ones, and forgiveness is releasing the need to forgive or be forgiven.

Seen this way, it is never about what rewards we can muster out of these practices.

Thanks for an important article.

k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people practice gratitude and it&#8217;s an important practice but I also see that it is a corrupted around the Law of Attraction as a reward practice. We could say the same about compassion.</p>
<p>In my experience, gratitude and compassion and forgiveness and many of these practices are not something we do but something we stop doing. When we stop holding on and are able to let go, we see that gratitude is as experience is the love of life, and compassion is the ability to see all points of view when we are no longer attached to our specific ones, and forgiveness is releasing the need to forgive or be forgiven.</p>
<p>Seen this way, it is never about what rewards we can muster out of these practices.</p>
<p>Thanks for an important article.</p>
<p>k</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post and interesting subject to discuss in this season.  I liked the discussion and the comments and wished I had learned this lesson when I was 25 and learned to express it as graciously.  I also really think my life has been more like what Julie is expressing.  By studying and learning from my controlling sister, I knew how to assist my youngest child in overcoming  her learning problems and also figured out that my parents guide of ignoring these big problems was not a good solution.  So it cost me my credentials and thousands of dollars in legal fees to create a safe zone between my sister and myself, I am so much wiser for the experience and feel that my child will have skills to use to grow from her difficulties.

I like the 4 sided look at a saying or situation...there are 4 directions so if one looks at 4 different possible ideas or interpretations they might see the greatest possibility or opportunity arise for wholeness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post and interesting subject to discuss in this season.  I liked the discussion and the comments and wished I had learned this lesson when I was 25 and learned to express it as graciously.  I also really think my life has been more like what Julie is expressing.  By studying and learning from my controlling sister, I knew how to assist my youngest child in overcoming  her learning problems and also figured out that my parents guide of ignoring these big problems was not a good solution.  So it cost me my credentials and thousands of dollars in legal fees to create a safe zone between my sister and myself, I am so much wiser for the experience and feel that my child will have skills to use to grow from her difficulties.</p>
<p>I like the 4 sided look at a saying or situation&#8230;there are 4 directions so if one looks at 4 different possible ideas or interpretations they might see the greatest possibility or opportunity arise for wholeness?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful conversation!  The Golden Rule seems to have many layers, for different times in our lives and different understandings of ourselves as we continue maturing and expanding our awareness of our own states of being and how we fit into the whole tapestry of life.  Forgiveness is certainly a facet, as much as selfless giving is.

The part of the conversation that struck me in particular was the advice of others about what another &quot;should do.&quot;  My own experiences and observations have shown that so much of the advice in this vein is with the best interests of the other in mind, but what&#039;s missing is the understanding that perhaps staying IS in the individual&#039;s best interest. Just because one would leave, doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s the same path another would feel comfortable taking.  While one might seek self-preservation by leaving and searching for new pastures, another may feel that as a form of loss.  One might opt for comfort while another might choose deeper knowledge of self and relationships and how all the minutia work together.

If we are to grow, to learn, to expand our understanding of how every single thing we do and think affects another, sending the ripple effects into the cosmos, then a participating in a &quot;trouble&quot; may be the best way to learn.  Often, the greatest growth occurs as a result of the most intense hardship.  Sometimes, the most loving act one can do for oneself is to withstand the hardship just long enough, using every thought-tool they can conjure to discern and assess the truths they uncover, to find the most brilliant, amazing and empowering ah-ha! moment they could ever imagine.  From that point, it&#039;s amazing how incredibly quickly new understandings occur, how rapidly the corresponding shifts occur in another (if willing), and how AMAZING the turnaround results!  This has been my own experience.  When love is the focus, when looking in all directions equally, Light can be found.  With a focus on love, miracles happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful conversation!  The Golden Rule seems to have many layers, for different times in our lives and different understandings of ourselves as we continue maturing and expanding our awareness of our own states of being and how we fit into the whole tapestry of life.  Forgiveness is certainly a facet, as much as selfless giving is.</p>
<p>The part of the conversation that struck me in particular was the advice of others about what another &#8220;should do.&#8221;  My own experiences and observations have shown that so much of the advice in this vein is with the best interests of the other in mind, but what&#8217;s missing is the understanding that perhaps staying IS in the individual&#8217;s best interest. Just because one would leave, doesn&#8217;t mean that&#8217;s the same path another would feel comfortable taking.  While one might seek self-preservation by leaving and searching for new pastures, another may feel that as a form of loss.  One might opt for comfort while another might choose deeper knowledge of self and relationships and how all the minutia work together.</p>
<p>If we are to grow, to learn, to expand our understanding of how every single thing we do and think affects another, sending the ripple effects into the cosmos, then a participating in a &#8220;trouble&#8221; may be the best way to learn.  Often, the greatest growth occurs as a result of the most intense hardship.  Sometimes, the most loving act one can do for oneself is to withstand the hardship just long enough, using every thought-tool they can conjure to discern and assess the truths they uncover, to find the most brilliant, amazing and empowering ah-ha! moment they could ever imagine.  From that point, it&#8217;s amazing how incredibly quickly new understandings occur, how rapidly the corresponding shifts occur in another (if willing), and how AMAZING the turnaround results!  This has been my own experience.  When love is the focus, when looking in all directions equally, Light can be found.  With a focus on love, miracles happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan "JoyGirl!" Bord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan "JoyGirl!" Bord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between the post, itself, and all the comments, I love what&#039;s been said here. I agree that through the ages people seem to have twisted the original intent of the Golden Rule around, but that&#039;s just my assumption. I have no proof of how the Golden Rule was intended.

I do believe, though, that who and how we are is attracted back to us in the form of complementary energies. If we feel we&#039;re undeserving, I think we attract those people and experiences that highlight our beliefs that we&#039;re unworthy. Likewise, when we love ourselves enough to believe we deserve the very best in life, I believe that&#039;s what we attract to us. 

Thought-provoking article; many thanks for such a good read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the post, itself, and all the comments, I love what&#8217;s been said here. I agree that through the ages people seem to have twisted the original intent of the Golden Rule around, but that&#8217;s just my assumption. I have no proof of how the Golden Rule was intended.</p>
<p>I do believe, though, that who and how we are is attracted back to us in the form of complementary energies. If we feel we&#8217;re undeserving, I think we attract those people and experiences that highlight our beliefs that we&#8217;re unworthy. Likewise, when we love ourselves enough to believe we deserve the very best in life, I believe that&#8217;s what we attract to us. </p>
<p>Thought-provoking article; many thanks for such a good read!</p>
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		<title>By: Tess  The Bold Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess  The Bold Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister just reported her son-in-law for child abuse. He got a lawyer and she can never see them again. The high road isn&#039;t always the easy road. Some people don&#039;t have the strength to take it.

A spiritually mature person wants nothing back for the good they do and the love they give. Yet they couldn&#039;t keep blessings from themselves if they tried. (just my opinion)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister just reported her son-in-law for child abuse. He got a lawyer and she can never see them again. The high road isn&#8217;t always the easy road. Some people don&#8217;t have the strength to take it.</p>
<p>A spiritually mature person wants nothing back for the good they do and the love they give. Yet they couldn&#8217;t keep blessings from themselves if they tried. (just my opinion)</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cyndi,
I think you are right on with your take on the Golden Rule.  For me, it&#039;s definitely an internal process - and I &quot;try&quot; not to think about myself doing something only to get another thing in return.  And I think that touches upon humanity, and how we are all human.  What better way to &quot;be&quot; a part of this human race than to act with love in our actions.  And in that case - love may definitely look like something where we have to step away from a bad moment, or do something that might feel hurtful to someone else (i.e. reporting child abuse - will hurt the abuser) to get to a place of something better.  

Great thoughts to read today and reflect upon.  Keep shining your love out into the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cyndi,<br />
I think you are right on with your take on the Golden Rule.  For me, it&#8217;s definitely an internal process &#8211; and I &#8220;try&#8221; not to think about myself doing something only to get another thing in return.  And I think that touches upon humanity, and how we are all human.  What better way to &#8220;be&#8221; a part of this human race than to act with love in our actions.  And in that case &#8211; love may definitely look like something where we have to step away from a bad moment, or do something that might feel hurtful to someone else (i.e. reporting child abuse &#8211; will hurt the abuser) to get to a place of something better.  </p>
<p>Great thoughts to read today and reflect upon.  Keep shining your love out into the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyndi, you just said if perfectly.  If we just don&#039;t participate in the collective dream, then it vanishes.  It uses your energy to maintain feelings from the past. This is why we live in an emotional state. When someone takes sides within a circle or in the collective dream, then a charge is created where an opposite point of view counters your view.  It holds the circle in place till you remove your charge and need for justice. The only way out of the dream is to begin your own dream.  And to dislodge your self from other people&#039;s dreams, one simply lets go without resistance.  We forgive the past to engage in the moment where dreams come true.  For thousands of years we have been bullied and manipulated into supporting dreams other than our own. We are all potential creaters of our own paradise.  It is a place where we resonate with our passions, which are unique to us. But to do this, we must forgive and love the illusions of the past.  The feelings of the past are outdated.  They no longer occur within the now and are out of context to the Moment.  It is time to channel brand new.  This builds new worlds by feeling good always, and without shelving one&#039;s feelings for a later date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyndi, you just said if perfectly.  If we just don&#8217;t participate in the collective dream, then it vanishes.  It uses your energy to maintain feelings from the past. This is why we live in an emotional state. When someone takes sides within a circle or in the collective dream, then a charge is created where an opposite point of view counters your view.  It holds the circle in place till you remove your charge and need for justice. The only way out of the dream is to begin your own dream.  And to dislodge your self from other people&#8217;s dreams, one simply lets go without resistance.  We forgive the past to engage in the moment where dreams come true.  For thousands of years we have been bullied and manipulated into supporting dreams other than our own. We are all potential creaters of our own paradise.  It is a place where we resonate with our passions, which are unique to us. But to do this, we must forgive and love the illusions of the past.  The feelings of the past are outdated.  They no longer occur within the now and are out of context to the Moment.  It is time to channel brand new.  This builds new worlds by feeling good always, and without shelving one&#8217;s feelings for a later date.</p>
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